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But she crossed a very messed up line! I know she didn't want me to figure these things, but killing? Trying to kill Clint?

I didn't know you knew my dad. But, I guess I should have known. With you and mom being so close over the years.
But what if you are wrong? What if like mom, Dad wasn't the good man I thought he was?

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She did, just like I have because she felt like she had no other choice in protecting you.

I'm not excusing it, it was wrong.

Your father was a good man. [A sometimes stupid man in Alfred's opinion but still a good one.] But he was human and made mistakes like we all do.

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I miss her. Part of me wants to talk to her.
But she probably hates me now.
And she probably figured that if I start making decisions in the company I'm gonna make a mess and everything she did in dad's name, it's all going to shit.

I remember they fought a lot. During the last years.

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She doesn't think either of those things.

Really? Do you think it could have been about Fisk?

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I know you're being nice to me, Alfred. And I'm thankful.
But you don't know that.

Maybe. I don't know if she knew back then or if Dad did this against her back.
I remember them fighting when they thought I couldn't hear them.
Now I understand why mom sounded always super mad and worried while dad was calm.

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Yes I do, actually.

If she sounded as upset as you say she did then I'd guess that yes, he did do it behind her back.

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A sweet message when I was first born has nothing to do with her now being in jail and figuring I'll fuck up her company.

I never thought my dad could be such an asshole.

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Kate, your mother was willing to put herself and others in danger to keep you safe. Because she loves you, much more than some company.

As I said before, he's human. Which does mean having the potential to be an arse.

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... I still don't wanna mess it up.

It's weird because... Dad was always kind of perfect in my mind. The perfect dad.
But he put the company before mom. Even if he didn't mean to.

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So stop assuming you will. Haven't you ever heard of a self fulfilling prophecy?

It's not that weird.

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... A what?

Did you go through the same thing with your dad?

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A self fulfilling prophecy, it's where you convince yourself that something will happen so much that it does.

No. I knew from a very young age that my father could be a bastard.

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But that doesn't make sense. There's a LOT of external factors that could make me really fuck up here.

... Oh.
Sorry to hear that.

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Kate, do you ever think this way about say jumping across a rooftop?

It's all right. I loved my father but he had a lot of flaws, most of which he took out on my mother.

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....
Maybe when jumping off buildings but...
No.

That's so not okay.

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You don't stand there on the rooftop repeatedly telling yourself that you're going to mess it up and break all your bones?

No, it's not. I didn't like him very much as a person but he was my father so I did love him if that makes any sense.

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...
No, I don't.
I think I might die for a second, but... I know I can focus.
I remember that Clint did it before.

Normally, it wouldn't.
But now it kinda does.
Did your mom love him too?

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So then why not use that same way of thinking for your family's company?

She did, very much so.

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Because jumping off a building is WAY easier than taking the decisions and going through meetings when I normally can barely stay awake through those things.

Even through all of that, was she happy?

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You're saying that because you've jumped across rooftops more times than you've done meetings or decisions.

Most of the time, yes.

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.... Probably.
It's kind of terrifying.

That's gotta be real tough.

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That's partially because you haven't done it enough. You understand my point though, right?

It was.

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I haven't done it enough and never on my own.

At least your mom couldn't have a better son.

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So what you're saying is you need some practice and maybe a tutor.

That's sweet of you to say.

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...
Yeah. Yeah, maybe something like that could work.
I don't wanna face the board and feel on my own.

I mean it.
I don't have many men in my life but in a short time you've become pretty important to me, Alfred.